(2020-09-13, 09:23 PM)MojaveGeek Wrote: DAW and some digits..  Is that D. A. Wright?

D.A. Who? 

(2020-09-13, 09:11 PM)netllama Wrote:

(2020-09-13, 09:08 PM)Kauri Wrote: Agreed, that was an incredibly fast forum set-up, thank you Netllama!!!

One idea/question: Is there any way to help folks who might be googling something along the lines of "what happened to the death-valley.net forum" find this new forum? Just thinking of old forum members who don't know what's happened in the last 36 hours (wow, did all this really happen so fast??).

I'm open to suggestions.  Unfortunately, I've already been locked out of the old site as a result of scraping all 232MB of posts so I can't even post there any more.

I was initially thinking an idea might be to add something to your updates page (https://netllama.linux-sxs.org/dv/index.html) along the lines of "if you're looking for the old death-valley.net forum..." or something that folks who are looking for the old forum would be likely to google. Problem is, whenever I google "death-valley.net" I get lots of results from the old forum. I'm not sure if at some point those results will disappear and this one will appear near the top (I have no idea how often the google bot visits sites, or even if that's what happens). I'll keep thinking. For now I'm just emailing this forum link to any of the members from the old forum who I have email addresses for.

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(2020-09-13, 09:28 PM)DAW89446 Wrote:

(2020-09-13, 09:23 PM)MojaveGeek Wrote: DAW and some digits..  Is that D. A. Wright?

D.A. Who? 

Wow, you should get an award for being the first member to get your old DV.net signature set up on this new site! 

(2020-09-13, 09:30 PM)Kauri Wrote:

(2020-09-13, 09:11 PM)netllama Wrote:

(2020-09-13, 09:08 PM)Kauri Wrote: Agreed, that was an incredibly fast forum set-up, thank you Netllama!!!

One idea/question: Is there any way to help folks who might be googling something along the lines of "what happened to the death-valley.net forum" find this new forum? Just thinking of old forum members who don't know what's happened in the last 36 hours (wow, did all this really happen so fast??).

I'm open to suggestions.  Unfortunately, I've already been locked out of the old site as a result of scraping all 232MB of posts so I can't even post there any more.

I was initially thinking an idea might be to add something to your updates page (https://netllama.linux-sxs.org/dv/index.html) along the lines of "if you're looking for the old death-valley.net forum..." or something that folks who are looking for the old forum would be likely to google. Problem is, whenever I google "death-valley.net" I get lots of results from the old forum. I'm not sure if at some point those results will disappear and this one will appear near the top (I have no idea how often the google bot visits sites, or even if that's what happens). I'll keep thinking. For now I'm just emailing this forum link to any of the members from the old forum who I have email addresses for.

I did update my page pointing to the new site a little while ago. But since the old forum is now effectively shut down, anyone who isn't already aware of the replacement forum is going to have a hard time finding it, at least in the short term. I did post messages on Panamint Valley & DVTalk forums to let people know what's going on.

Google's bot is fairly aggressive. I generally see it updating on web properrties that I run every 24 hours. Its quite likely that it will detect the loss of the old forum by this time tomorrow (Sept 14), after which all the content will no longer be indexed on Google.

Hopefully we can get people over here and keep things alive.

Speaking of which, I'm going to start a new thread here with more details on the (full!) data scrape that I completed of the old forum.

(2020-09-13, 09:30 PM)Kauri Wrote:

(2020-09-13, 09:28 PM)DAW89446 Wrote:

(2020-09-13, 09:23 PM)MojaveGeek Wrote: DAW and some digits..  Is that D. A. Wright?

D.A. Who? 

Wow, you should get an award for being the first member to get your old DV.net signature set up on this new site! 

  Copied and pasted. Actually, that signature was something I posted some years ago over at PV.com and another member suggested that as a signature. It is a signature I use for all the forums I participate on, which has recently been reduced by two in the past couple weeks ... 

Thank you, Netllama, for your heroic work!!

Thanks, netllama.

There seems to be a history of poor decisionmaking and lack of communication when it come to the admins who run Death Valley sites over the last few years.

I appreciate the effort to save DV.net site's content. I've found it immensely helpful for enjoying the Park, and I'm sure there are many others who use the content and knowledge too, even if they've never been active contributors.

Thank you! I'm a long time lurker who uses the forum to live my life vicariously through others. Thanks you for time and efforts!

(2020-09-13, 09:11 PM)netllama Wrote: I'm open to suggestions.  Unfortunately, I've already been locked out of the old site as a result of scraping all 232MB of posts so I can't even post there any more.

It's not just you that's locked out:  he locked out everyone at some point Sunday morning Pacific time!

Thank you so much netllama!
Long time lurker and I'm so happy to have been watching the old forum as the weather starts to cool. I've always enjoyed the wide variety of contributions, DV is in my backyard, and look forward to learning more on this new site. Maybe even crawl out from under my rock and contribute.

Hey, DV Friends!

Well that was all quite the whirlwind. Huge thanks to netllama for 1) archiving the old forum, and 2) setting up this new repository.

I'm personally going to sit tight and see whether or not the admin of death-valley.net makes available a dump of the old database in the near future. Piecing everything back together is a pretty thankless task, though if it comes to that I'll lend a hand as much as possible. Would also be nice if the domain death-valley.net was passed on for continuity's sake, as I feel like we've got a strong enough core to keep the forum running as well as it was before.