(2022-09-19, 08:14 PM)netllama Wrote: Today's the 2nd birthday of this site !

Hope the site continues to behave for you and doesn't enter the "terrible twos" stage of most toddlers!

Thank you a million times for keeping us alive on the internet. There are days when I really, really need this forum.

(2022-09-19, 08:14 PM)netllama Wrote: Today's the 2nd birthday of this site !

Thanks a 1e9 for keeping this resource going!

(2022-09-20, 09:25 AM)netllama Wrote:

(2022-09-20, 09:23 AM)trailhound Wrote: There is a $39 app called WEB2DISK. It will produce an exact copy of a website on your hard drive. Links to pictures work and it looks identical. Sadly, I didn't know it existed until after death-valley.net was gone. Using this app obviously violates the site owner's copyright.

That's unnecessary. There's free software available that does the same job (and is what I used to scrape the site ~2 years ago).

I can find my old death-valley.net posts, but they are only text - no photos. I assume that the free tool did not capture the images. WEB2DISK does. The copy it produces looks identical to the original on the internet. You could not tell them apart. I am not complaining. Netllama, you did a fantastic job in getting what we have. I am just curious as to what the free tool can do.  I retired last year as a computer programmer, but it was on an IBM mainframe (iSeries formerly AS/400). PC's, networking, and web leave my head spinning.

(2022-09-21, 12:02 PM)trailhound Wrote:

(2022-09-20, 09:25 AM)netllama Wrote:

(2022-09-20, 09:23 AM)trailhound Wrote: There is a $39 app called WEB2DISK. It will produce an exact copy of a website on your hard drive. Links to pictures work and it looks identical. Sadly, I didn't know it existed until after death-valley.net was gone. Using this app obviously violates the site owner's copyright.

That's unnecessary. There's free software available that does the same job (and is what I used to scrape the site ~2 years ago).

I can find my old death-valley.net posts, but they are only text - no photos. I assume that the free tool did not capture the images. WEB2DISK does. The copy it produces looks identical to the original on the internet. You could not tell them apart. I am not complaining. Netllama, you did a fantastic job in getting what we have. I am just curious as to what the free tool can do.  I retired last year as a computer programmer, but it was on an IBM mainframe (iSeries formerly AS/400). PC's, networking, and web leave my head spinning.

wget could have captured everything, but the owner of the previous site terminated access before they could be captured (and then threatened legal action).

Thank you. That explains it. There is a story behind the shutdown that has never come out, at least, to my knowledge. It seems very strange. Steve Hall did offer an explanation for pulling the plug on his site.

The reason for the shutdown is very simple, actually. But I’m not going to betray the reason since the source has opted to stay silent.

(2022-09-23, 01:55 PM)DAW89446 Wrote: The reason for the shutdown is very simple, actually. But I’m not going to betray the reason since the source has opted to stay silent.

The source fed different stories to different people. I doubt anyone knows the truth, or can say with high confidence that they know the truth.

It is fortunate that you came along and created a new version of the old forum. Since you created it fresh, it isn’t plagued with a large gap in continuity like another forum from the same family due to initial inaction by those working behind the curtain. Since fresh, this forum has taken on its own personality and momentum instead of trying to recreate the past. Unlike the other forum, in which its core members have gone elsewhere and beyond; leaving but a small group that very occasionally post.

As usual I learn from you sharing your wise perspective on DEVA matters. I share your gratitude for netllama "saving us" from online oblivion.

Tr
Hee hee.  iSeries isn't a mainframe.  It's one heck of rock solid platform.  I know, it's semantics, but zSeries is the mainframe.  Either are far better than the PC environment.

David "43 years with IBM" Bricker / SYR