Anyone have any beta on any of these?  I'm pretty sure Kauri has been up the steep one with the "This is an alluvial fan" info sign / kiosk, but looking at the topo I can't place which one it is.   I am eyeballing the one immediately to the NW of Titus - it's 3/4 air miles between their mouths.  Looks like there are some good narrows in there but can't tell anything at all about pour offs.   Any info on that area would be appreciated, thanks.

Yes, I've been to all of the major ones. Did you look at the map on my website homepage? I'm admittedly not sure which one you're referring to by immediately NW of Titus (since that's north of Titus and your title is asking about canyons south of Titus ) Did you mean immediately NW of Titanothere?

That's this one:
http://kaurijacobphotography.yolasite.co...2%20TR.pdf
NPS data calls it "Close-Call Canyon." Very nice but that major dry-fall is slick and it sounds like multiple groups have nearly had a nasty injury on it. The canyon before the dry-fall is nice, but it doesn't really get narrow until shortly before the dry-fall. Worth walking out there if you're curious, but it'll be a half-day hike at most.

The steep alluvial fan canyon is this one:
http://kaurijacobphotography.yolasite.co...wTitus.pdf
It's steep! But the views are good.

I'd HIGHLY recommend the canyon between Alluvial Canyon and Close Call Canyon. We did that one many years ago and I loved it. One of the first hikes I did with a digital camera as a teenager. Lots of good scrambling but nothing too challenging I recall, until you get to a beautiful amphitheater with a dry-fall that has to be hundreds of feet tall if I'm remembering correctly. And some nice narrows. I'd love to see someone do that hike and share photos of it. I remember it being a fun one, though if you're looking for something with little to no climbing it would not be a good fit. Could probably do this one in the morning then Close-Call Canyon in the afternoon.

Between Alluvial Canyon and Titus I remember getting stopped by a challenging dry-fall pretty quickly on in all of these. Looks like I don't have reports on two of them, must've not bothered to write anything up. They're kind of annoying in the sense that you get stopped so early on but the canyon beyond the impasse looks to have really nice narrows!

Oh, that was a typo, I did mean immediately NW of TITANOTHERE not Titus (next from Titus would be Fall, then Palmer, and probably RedWall next but maybe something in between, just from memory.

Figures you've been up these, Kauri, you are systematic in your explorations! I'll have to check your site / map of course - I was mostly day dreaming from looking at topos today. Thanks for the input!!

You've got a lot to explore Between Palmer and Red Wall is what Steve Hall calls Little Arches Canyon, and then what Charlie Callagan calls Scruge Canyon. And in between the two is Turret Bridge.

I figured that was your typo, sounds like one I would do too.

Enjoy your trip planning!!

(2022-12-28, 11:06 PM)Kauri Wrote: You've got a lot to explore

So many canyons.... such little time

Scruge is the name of a benchmark south of Redwall, I can see that, and the other canyon you mention. Always looking for out of the way places to check out.

(2022-12-28, 09:25 PM)Kauri Wrote: I'd HIGHLY recommend the canyon between Alluvial Canyon and Close Call Canyon. We did that one many years ago and I loved it. One of the first hikes I did with a digital camera as a teenager. Lots of good scrambling but nothing too challenging I recall, until you get to a beautiful amphitheater with a dry-fall that has to be hundreds of feet tall if I'm remembering correctly. And some nice narrows. I'd love to see someone do that hike and share photos of it. I remember it being a fun one, though if you're looking for something with little to no climbing it would not be a good fit. Could probably do this one in the morning then Close-Call Canyon in the afternoon.

Awesome recommendation.  I’ve stared at that canyon for years driving past.  This is the push I needed to actually hike in.  

Well… as soon as they open North Rd.  Lol.  Kind of a long hike in from 190.

(2022-12-31, 11:54 AM)Beardilocks Wrote: Well… as soon as they open North Rd.  Lol.  Kind of a long hike in from 190.

I wonder why they are being so slow to open the road. Maybe it's low priority since Scotty's is closed and there is an open route to Beatty? Not that many years ago they did work all along the road to improve flood drainage across the asphalt. I guess it didn't work.

>I'd HIGHLY recommend the canyon between Alluvial Canyon and Close Call Canyon.

Kauri, FYI this is mis-labelled on your clickable map, makes reference to Palmer.

Whenever I look at your map, I am deeply impressed by your systematic explorations!

(2022-12-31, 03:28 PM)MojaveGeek Wrote:

(2022-12-31, 11:54 AM)Beardilocks Wrote: Well… as soon as they open North Rd.  Lol.  Kind of a long hike in from 190.

I wonder why they are being so slow to open the road.  Maybe it's low priority since Scotty's is closed and there is an open route to Beatty?  Not that many years ago they did work all along the road to improve flood drainage across the asphalt.  I guess it didn't work.

I’m guessing they must be close.  I saw a report from a motorcyclist that was in to the Racetrack via Lippencott over Xmas week.  He says Lippencott was virtually impassable in a truck (which differs from some other reports I’ve heard so that’s confusing). But he also said Racetrack Rd was freshly grated.  If they’ve run the Grater all the way in to the Racetrack, they must be getting close with the main road?

(2023-01-01, 11:59 AM)Beardilocks Wrote:

(2022-12-31, 03:28 PM)MojaveGeek Wrote:

(2022-12-31, 11:54 AM)Beardilocks Wrote: Well… as soon as they open North Rd.  Lol.  Kind of a long hike in from 190.

I wonder why they are being so slow to open the road.  Maybe it's low priority since Scotty's is closed and there is an open route to Beatty?  Not that many years ago they did work all along the road to improve flood drainage across the asphalt.  I guess it didn't work.

I’m guessing they must be close.  I saw a report from a motorcyclist that was in to the Racetrack via Lippencott over Xmas week.  He says Lippencott was virtually impassable in a truck (which differs from some other reports I’ve heard so that’s confusing). But he also said Racetrack Rd was freshly grated.  If they’ve run the Grater all the way in to the Racetrack, they must be getting close with the main road?

Multiple reports over on the Saline Preservation forum have Lippincott pegged as business as usual. (Bad) Conditions for that road tend to be grossly inflated in my experience. Also, a lot of incompetent people out there driving so I guess that might explain it a bit.