Death Valley

Looks great.

By the way I ordered that Alice Hunt book youve mentioned a couple of times now. Was find to hard most of it was on backorder and my library didnt have it in the county.

I would also recommend to strip GPS coordinates from image EXIF data. If you use your phone for photography or have a GPS enabled DSLR, coordinates will be embedded; which anyone can find online. I assume many already know this, but it was news to me when I found out it less than a year ago.

(2023-02-26, 08:25 PM)DAW89446 Wrote: [ -> ]I would also recommend to strip GPS coordinates from image EXIF data. If you use your phone for photography or have a GPS enabled DSLR, coordinates will be embedded; which anyone can find online. I assume many already know this, but it was news to me when I found out it less than a year ago.

There's no coords in the EXIF data of his images.

(2023-02-26, 08:35 PM)netllama Wrote: [ -> ]

(2023-02-26, 08:25 PM)DAW89446 Wrote: [ -> ]I would also recommend to strip GPS coordinates from image EXIF data. If you use your phone for photography or have a GPS enabled DSLR, coordinates will be embedded; which anyone can find online. I assume many already know this, but it was news to me when I found out it less than a year ago.

There's no coords in the EXIF data of his images.

That’s good. My comment was aimed at those who don’t know this, as I once didn’t know.

All images were scrubbed of EXIF. I just got lazy about cropping. Started telling a story & sharing the view with friends and forgot about the vultures lurking. I see you vultures. 🤨

(2023-02-26, 07:59 PM)Daymoth Wrote: [ -> ]Looks great.

By the way I ordered that Alice Hunt book youve mentioned a couple of times now. Was find to hard most of it was on backorder and my library didnt have it in the county.

I failed to find it anywhere actually in print that it might ship in like, this calendar year.  As I’m here now in DV I… built up a LOT of owed favors to be repaid with several awesome folks on here with university connections or hard copies of the book.

It’s amazing for what it is.  However extremely limited in scope to just the salt pan and a few areas up the alluvials.  I’d kill for a similar study of Greenwater, Saline, Eureka, etc.  

I have yet to find ANYTHING n the Owlsheads, which makes no sense.  Gotta be tons of stuff out there.  Anyone have any leads?? 😁

(2023-02-26, 10:31 PM)Beardilocks Wrote: [ -> ]

(2023-02-26, 07:59 PM)Daymoth Wrote: [ -> ]Looks great.

By the way I ordered that Alice Hunt book youve mentioned a couple of times now. Was find to hard most of it was on backorder and my library didnt have it in the county.

I failed to find it anywhere actually in print that it might ship in like, this calendar year.  As I’m here now in DV I… built up a LOT of owed favors to be repaid with several awesome folks on here with university connections or hard copies of the book.

It’s amazing for what it is.  However extremely limited in scope to just the salt pan and a few areas up the alluvials.  I’d kill for a similar study of Greenwater, Saline, Eureka, etc.  

I have yet to find ANYTHING n the Owlsheads, which makes no sense.  Gotta be tons of stuff out there.  Anyone have any leads?? 😁

Mmm actually I had to tripple check and no they dont have it in stock. .. sigh.... I forsee them refunding my money..... Was too good to be true.


Sounds like you have a survey project right there for next season!!

I took a walk along the Armagosa btw storms.  Between precipitation events is maybe better.  I was virtually knocked flat by some wind gusts north of 50mph. Bloody hell I'm sick of the wind this winter.  




This time I was really just out for a walk.  I have not heard of any ancient sites out here.  But I found some.  

Some odd rock alignments.   There were 4-5 obvious piles.  They were well embedded in the desert pavement and looked quite old.  There was just enough of them to call to an alignment rather than a couple cairns.  It’s possible there were a couple of rock lines as well but it’s impossible to be sure after this many years.  






Another pile down the bench a ways.


A larger pile about 1/2mi away.  


And then what I was hoping for, a habitation site.  Either sleeping circle or foundation for a wickiup. 


In its current collapsed state it’s about 10’x12’.  The rocks are quite deeply settled into the pavement and it seems quite old.  


There was a fair bit of lithic scatter.  All of it pretty deeply embedded, sandblasted, and sporting some algae here and there.  Again, seemed much older than other lithic scatter I’ve found.  




I reported this site to a park archeologist to make sure they know it’s here.  

Interestingly I found an old dump on the River side of tue bench.  Looks as if at some point someone was dumping trash into the river or at least behind the bench.  Interesting because I saw no tire tracks or trails on the bench. Mostly glass and pottery.  

It looks like you're down near "The Narrows" of the Amargosa. If so, that trench goes on a fair ways, and is fun to walk - when dry of course Yes there are strange bits of relics of various sorts out there, random stakes, some rusted stuff, noting really exciting but strange to come across in what is otherwise a rather flat and featureless area. Looks like you have a nice day at least when you took those pix! I sure am hoping the weather is better when I get out in a bit over a week, but long range forecasts show more weather next Thursday night.

Wow! Your first image of the river dead center and the landscape and sky scape is total eye candy. The strongest wind I've personally experienced anywhere is on Rogers Peak, the one between Mahogany Flat and Telescope Peak. I had goggles but I had to get on hands and knees and sit down for a while because standing and walking was treacherous on the ridge line. I have no idea how was the wind was and I admired how well engineered that communication equipment on top is anchored down to withstand those frequent blasts. The wind whistling through those metal structures sound like a jet engine.